Marchmont and Sciennes Community Council
Minutes of Meeting held on February 22nd, 2023 at St. Catherine’s Argyle
Church Hall
Present
Brian Gilmore - Chair, MSCC
Alison Service - MSCC Treasurer
Donald Henderson - Grange Association
Nigel Ayton - Grange Association
Douglas Rogers - MSCC
Alastair Philp - local resident
Anthony Holmes - Thirlestane Lane Association
Kayleigh Gordon - MSCC Publicity
Cllr. Steve Burgess - Green SN Ward
Susie Agnew - MSCC
Cllr. Mary Claire Munro
Apologies
Anne Laing - MSCC Secretary
Liane Phillips - MSCC Publicity
Attending
Nora Flynn-McIver - Minutes Secretary
Meeting began at 7.30pm:
The meeting was opened by Brian introducing Donald
Henderson, who has taken over from Nigel Ayton as the new Grange Association representative.
He thanked Nigel for all the work he has put into the Grange Association and
for his help in liaising with the MSCC.
Draft Minutes of 25/01/23 Meeting
- Alison moves to approve, Susie seconds
Publicity
- Notice board on Marchmont Crescent has been
revamped
- Now has specific sections that will stay the
same, but news and sheets will change
- Notice board gets general approval
- Need to update the other two notice boards,
will be done shortly.
Meadows and Bruntsfield Links, FOMBL Report
- FOMBL report talked about bird boxes, which
are attracting new birds
- Tree group is planting new trees - others
awaiting planting once EDC scanner fissures fixed.
- Cllr Burgess said that this has been
brought to the Council’s attention, but he has not yet heard back. He
will try and call soon if he has not heard back in a timely manner
- Two new hardwood benches to be delivered.
- Got cycle bars for The Meadows received from EDC.
- Top up drinking fountain installed by
Pavilion, Scottish Water opening event on March 9th 11am
- Have requested more but Scottish Water says
this is unlikely
- Concerns raised about a digger and mess near
the pavilion c.2 weeks ago.
- Most likely to do with water fountain which
became operational a week ago
- Playground equipment received for each of the
three Playgrounds on both Meadows & Links
Note: Most of FOMBL activities like planting, benches, playground
equipment are the result of special grants.
- Replacement Parks Manager is David Kyle
City Council Report
- Cllr Burgess reported that the Budget
meeting is 23/02/23
- Challenge of needing to make £150m cuts to
services this year as not enough money
- Demand on council services is increasing and
the flat amount being given to council has not changed
- Finance officers have managed to get the gap
down to £13 million
- Council’s largest spend is on staff, this is
generally where cuts will come from
- Very little excess to cut at this point
- Proposal is to cut from education
department (£6.5 million)
- Cuts to individual school budgets (5.5
million)
- Cuts to education and welfare officers (400
thousand)
- Speech and language therapy (400 thousand)
- All parties are generally agreed to not
accept this proposed cut
- Council currently has a complex political
structure that requires support from multiple parties to have a Labour
budget proposal passed, otherwise SNP budget passes
- Needed cuts are going up exponentially in
future years
- Council is limited in what it can do via
council tax and cannot vary across different bands
- Calling on Scottish gov’t to reform council
tax for a fairer system and give councils more leeway
- Parking Permit and Parking Fines to increase
- Question about how SNP budget differs from
Labour budget
- Both were published tonight
- Each party has to make difficult choices
about council tax, which services to cut, etc.
- Councils were allowed to raise council tax by
3%, many parties looking to raise this 1 or 2%
- Question about whether Council can afford
Warrender Baths heating
- Within plan for refurbishment is a cost
estimate, but it is over budget
- Cllr Burgess will ask about this
Christmas Event
- Changed to Saturday, 25th November 2023
Sick Kids Site Update
- Douglas reported that he had met with Home Group
- Were planning on closing bottom of Sylvan
Place for 16 months
- They will now look at closing Rillbank
Terrace instead, which will affect fewer people
- Meeting with Square and Crescent soon
- Trying to ensure that disruption is as low as
possible
- Will affect Millerfield Place
- Want to see what level of insulation they’re
going for, and what level of restoration
- Mortuary Chapel is still owned by Downing but
no news on this
- Question about a small space of the
building being given over to community use
- Will still be a community space, but is very
small and no toilet
- Looking for anyone to come up with a plan on
how to use it
- Access from Sciennes Road
Pavement on Chalmers Crescent
- Kayleigh had previously asked Cllr Munro about
this. Cllr Munro reported that the response was that the pavement
disrepair is not bad enough to fix but she’s still working on it.
Planning Applications
- 24 Mansionhouse Rd application for second
floor balcony is still pending
- 10 Chalmers Crescent roof terrace on rear extension
was refused
- Appealed planning application but has not
appealed listed building refusal
- Cannot build the roof terrace without the
listed building consent
- Phone mast application in Whitehouse Loan has
been circulated
Grange Cemetery Update
- First two Sundays in March, volunteers will be
working to plant bulbs
Treasurer’s Report
- £1742 in the bank at end Jan-23.
- Need ideas for projects in the area
- Will check in with Emma Willson about garden
project on Marchmont Crescent
- Defibrillator project
- The Earl of Marchmont has now one
defibrillator, waiting for planning approval to get it put up outside the
pub rather than inside
- Are organising training sessions - Alison has
asked to have training, though they are supposed to be self-explanatory
Meetings Attended
- No updates
Energy Efficiency Presentation - Douglas Rogers
- Douglas Rogers gave a presentation on home
energy and how to warm your home and save energy - with particular
emphasis on houses in the Marchmont & Sciennes area - most of which
date from the Victorian era.
- Question about how to respond if lofts are
used as rooms
- Knock out ceilings and put insulation in
- Big challenges will come up in the next few
years, and radical action will need to be taken
- Question about whether you are allowed to have
double glazing in listed buildings, because you need a specific type of
glass and then draught-proofing this is quite expensive
- Council should put forward positive
acceptable practice so that businesses can start producing lower-cost
solutions to problems
- Group called Gecko who cuts pieces of acrylic
to fit each window pane, but this costs a fair amount of money as well
- Not as much money as the other options
- Often need to replace wood when trying to
draught-proof house
- Question about specialists overcharging for
these services
- Need a set of rules set by Council that they
must abide by
- Question about whether air-source heat pumps
will work
- Will only work under specific circumstances,
is not a simple issue
- Also don’t know whether Council would allow
it
- Scotland will have to ban gas usage if they
want to go carbon neutral
- Question about why many new buildings in the
UK don’t have energy efficient regulations
- Some legislation has gone through Parliament
but it is somewhat outdated
- Can get grants to improve new houses with
solar panels
- New schools in Edinburgh are being built to
Passivhaus Standards
- In mid-2030s, people will not be able to
replace gas boilers
- Trying to heat Victorian houses right now
means that people don’t want to buy the houses because it is too
expensive
- Need to find a solution for walls leaking
heat
- There are materials that can assure the right
levels of ventilation as well
- Question about if the gov’t attempts to force
the country towards carbon neutral, this could be quite difficult and
inaccessible
- Some definitions still need to happen on what
the practicalities of this would be
- Gas prices are going to go down again, carbon
neutrality only happens based on personal responsibility
- Question about whether you are actually able
to just seal a chimney up, or is this dangerous
- Still need to have ventilation, as normal
method of chimney drying out is hindered
- Should probably cap chimneys
- Unclear on whether this is good enough,
could cause condensation
- Buildings are built for a lot of ventilation,
could find other problems if things start getting closed up
- Need to put reflow ventilation systems in
and close up the rest of the house, more air exchange
- Challenge is likely to be about radically
transforming building standards
- Worry about gov’t insisting on people
changing their own houses under their own volition
AOCB
- Flooding by old German church
- Old pipes are going around church
- Question about how long emergency gas works
are likely to last
- Bus stops for 41 are suspended, no temporary
stop has been added
- Cllr Munro will look into this
- Roads around Earl of Marchmont
- Can now see old cobblestones
- Cllr Munro is enquiring about this
- ScotMid stacking large produce crates on the
pavement causing difficulties for some people.
- Cllr Munro checked and ScotMid has permission
to put these crates there, but manager will monitor situation
- Concern expressed about future of Kings
Theatre
- Cllr Munro said that all parties, within both
the Council and the Scottish Govt, are working to try and save the
theatre. £3-3.6 million already committed to go towards this, but much
more needed.
Date of Next Meeting - March 22, 2023
Reports
FOMBL Report
Report on FOMBL Meeting of Monday 6 February 2023 – Alison Service
attending
FOMBL Bird Box Project: Of the 21 boxes, 14 were occupied, 6 unoccupied
and one which
may have been abandoned. A decision was taken to reposition the 6 boxes
that were
unsuccessful this year to nearby trees. All of the boxes have been taken
down for cleaning and
are now back up.
Planting for Winter Bird Feeding and for Biodiversity Enhancement on the
Meadows: It is
proposed to plant between 30-50 rowan, hawthorn, and hazel to support
Winter bird feeding,
both of Winter-visiting birds and also of resident birds. As well as the
many native berry-bearing
species (including rowan, hawthorn holly, whitebeam, spindle, dog rose,
guelder rose, elder,
honeysuckle and ivy), attractive shrubs like cotoneaster, pyracantha, and
berberis are especially
good for a wide range of birds.
Locations under Consideration: The North end of the fenced-in play area
adjacent to the
Meadows Community Garden. Other possible locations can be examined and
proposed in
addition to the playground one.
Bird Species Likely to Benefit: Winter visitors: Waxwings, Fieldfares,
Redwings, among others,
including our residents: Mistle Thrush, Song Thrush, Blackbird,
Bullfinch, Blue Tit, Great Tit,
Long-tailed Tit, Robin, Starling, Wood Pigeon, Collared Dove, among
others.
Funding: It is proposed to submit a grant application, through FOMBL,
towards the costs.
Tree Group Report: The tree group have been active most Fridays and
managed to plant 9
trees ordered through the million tree project. We have a delivery of
three trees from our own
suppliers to be planted on Friday 10th Feb. These are to replace the
trees which died during last
years drought.
The group have also maintained a large number of young trees by removing
defective wire
cages, posts and clearing bases removing dead branches and re-
strapping,
replacing posts and wire cages where necessary. Rotten posts have been
renovated for re-use
by cutting off rotten ends, re-sharpening and dipping in preservative.
Overall we have dealt with around 50 trees.
Ideally, next autumn, we would like to plant hedgerow type trees such as
hazel, hawthorn and
blackthorn to act as an understorey, below the mature trees somewhere on
the Meadows. This
would be very good for birdlife on the Meadows and help absorb some of
the air pollution from
Melville Drive. It would also provide food for insects.It
wouldn't interfere with people's use of the
open spaces on the Meadows.
BENCHES: Two hardwood benches for Bruntsfield Links Gillespie’s school
shared play area to
be ordered for delivery in max. 16 weeks. Total cost: £938.40 (grant of
£874.18)
Old hardwood bench in new children’s play area is being renovated now
with installation in
March/April. £1151. Yearly bench maintenance costs approx £100.
A new metal bench was recently installed at the West Links playground
following FOMBL
request.
PLAYGROUNDS: SOUTH LINKS TODDLERS: All items (log house and train) for
new South
Links toddlers playground have been delivered and location agreed. It is
hoped that installation
will occur within 3 months.
EAST LINKS: Discussion ongoing on replacement of sand pit and play
equipment at East
meadows playground (due to corrosion).
Archimedes screw and pump at water feature now ready to install for
summer.
WEST LINKS: New swings installed due to corrosion. Safety surfacing to
be replaced at
toddler’s play area.
CYCLE BARS: Joan Carter asked for cycle bars to be installed at the
pavilion and ended up
with many more to be distributed throughout the park.
TOP-UP DRINKING FOUNTAIN by Scottish Water: The first fountain has been
installed
adjacent to the pavilion cafe. Opening event on 9 th March at 11am. More
requested but not
likely due to cost, according to Scottish Water.
VOLUNTEERS: Alison Carr continues to lead the small group of regular
volunteers on the last
Saturday of every month and a big thanks to her for all her work.
Grange Cemetery Report
Cemetery Report to MSCC – 22 nd Feb 2023
1) Restoration of large Monuments: The Grange Association Committee
deferred
the decision about whether to accept the quote from Jim Walker
(Robertson
Memorials) for the re-erection of another 7 large monuments in the SE
corner. As
there will be a new Chair (and some new committee members) elected at
the
Grange Ass AGM on 21 st March it was felt that this expenditure needs to
be
approved by the new committee.
2) Community Payback: We are still hoping that this scheme can be
restarted –
maybe we should all approach local councillors about the value of this
scheme.
3) Meeting with CEC: The “Friends” met Peter Gentleman (CEC) on 23 rd
January. We
are expecting to get a key to the area of the Catacombs where there are
interments – we could then consider offering tours (under supervision)
to
members of the public.
4) Wildflower bed(s). The bed by the east gate needs some attention
(Graham Stone
is advising us). Preparing the ground, by CEC, for two new wildflower
beds above
the catacombs should start soon.
5) New Notice Board: We have been promised a new board to be sited near
the
west gate.
6) Gardening: The Council (because of staff shortages) has been unable
to clear all
the leaves from last autumn. Volunteers have cleared some areas and the
piles
should then be collected by CEC.
7) Planting (insect friendly planta): Volunteers have been asked to
bring suitable
plants to the Cemetery on the two first Sundays in March – Graham Stone
will be
there to help/advise suitable planting places. If anyone would like a
list of suitable
plants please get in touch.
8) Bee Hotel (and possible bug/hedgehog homes) The bee hotel will be
replaced in
March in time to attract “visitors” over the spring/summer. Graham Stone
has
provided guidance about providing suitable homes (using fallen leaves)
for a
variety of insects and possibly hedgehogs. We hope to do this over the
next few
weeks.
Cemetery@grangeassociation.org
Treasurer’s Report
Marchmont & Sciennes Community Council
For meeting of 22nd February 2023
Balance in account as at end Dec-22 £1782.08
Paid OUT to end Jan-2023:
Minute Sec Jan23 £40.00
Paid IN to end Jan-2023: Nil
Balance in Bank as end Jan-2023 £1742.08
Payments pending to end Jan-23: Nil
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